Product Review Redux: Tutti Rouge Liliana

Hello Everyone,

When the charming Tutti Rouge brand first debuted two years ago, I was excited to see another new entry into the fuller-market, particularly one which effortlessly blended flirty bubblegum fun with grown-up sophistication for a collection with broad appeal.  Tutti Rouge generously provided me bras to review, including the core style Liliana, but we experienced initial sizing problems.  Ordinarily, I wore a UK 30H/HH, but the 30HH Liliana was too tight to fasten and an entire cup size small, making it difficult to wear often, but I always wanted to revisit the style in a better-fitting size.  Flash forward to 2015, and I finally had my chance!

Sizing & Fit:  Choosing a new size was an agonizing process involving much second guessing and exasperation on my part.  Not only had I heard Tutti Rouge tweaked the original sizing and fit of Liliana in subsequent seasons, but I was also in the throes of weight transition.  When I ordered the bras, I had only lost a pound or two, and my bra size was trending more toward 32H/HH.  Ultimately, I settled on 32HH and crossed my fingers I made the right decision.  Even professional bra fitters struggle with buying bras during weight transition, especially without knowing how the sizing system works, so believe me when I tell you how much I empathize ladies and gents!

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When I first received Liliana and took the pictures, I was heavier than when I shot the video which changed the fit.  Initially, I needed a full extender to wear Liliana at a rather uncomfortably snug level, but by the time I filmed my review, I only needed half of the extender for a comfortable fit.  For reference, the fully-stretched band only measures 30.5″ and does not feel prone to stretching.  A friend in the UK who I met through the blog (*waves at Alex*) tried Liliana after we discussed my issues and did not report the band running too small.  As a result, I am unsure if I received a one-off problem bra (it happens) or if the entire style is inconsistent. 

Original Tutti Rouge Liliana in UK 30HH for comparison
Original Tutti Rouge Liliana in UK 30HH for comparison

Despite an overly tight band, the HH cup fit perfectly without any gaping or overflow.  The center gore on Liliana is not overly high which avoids pressing uncomfortably into my tissue, but the shape is wide and shallow, causing my breasts to splay more toward the side.  The underwire shape extends too far on my back and leaves space between the underwire and breast tissue along the entire bottom and side of the cup.  In fact, the cup extends so far onto the side that it actually functions as part of the band by wrapping around my body rather than shaping tissue.  A taller cup shape on the side digs painfully into my arm as well, and while the rest of the bra feels comfortable even with the fit quibbles, this is my personal deal breaker.  When a bra feels like this, it almost always welts me by the end of the day, and I know now to avoid it or suffer the consequences.  Does the shape I described sound familiar, long-time readers?  It reminds me of the early Curvy Kate bras.  I experienced every single one of these problems with Curvy Kate at one point or another, and I think Tutti Rouge has unfortunately fallen into the trap with GG+ cup sizes.  On the positive side, if you find Curvy Kate or wide/shallow designs work for you, definitely consider Liliana.  The profile is also one of the most minimized I have ever tried, most likely because of the wider shape, and I know not every woman in the fuller-bust market wants the rounded, forward shape I mention in my reviews.

Liliana Original Side Profile
Liliana Original Side Profile
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Note: This bra is technically only one cup size larger than the hot pink bra above, but the height on the side is higher here.

Now, I know the preceding paragraph seems a little harsh, but I don’t think Liliana is a bad bra.  In fact, I think women in DD-FF cup sizes may find something to like here because the design becomes lower coverage in smaller cups, and gentle lift would really suit certain breast types, especially shallow ones.  Liliana is also available up to a 44 back (which is totally awesome!), and I think some women in those 38+ backs would be comfortable with the width of the wires and appreciate the way they encapsulate side breast tissue.

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Materials & Design:  Initially, Tutti Rouge was considered a lower cost alternative to Freya, but recent increases mean the Liliana has a stateside MSRP of $65, begging the question of whether the quality matches the price.  From the brief time I examined the bra and shot the video/pictures, the quality did seem on par with Freya and better than the original bra I was sent in 2013.  The padding in the lower cup is soft and pliable, and the wings are quite firm to prevent too much stretching.  The straps are fully-adjustable, and the upper embroidered cup is not flimsy or prone to tearing.  I love the use of a half-padded cup with a fabric upper cup, particularly because I think the fuller-bust market could benefit from something different. From a design perspective, I have loved Liliana from the start.  For my retest, I opted for the noir/sugar combination, and I love the hot pink underneath the patterned sheer lace.  The use of pink ribbon on the top really pops and keeps the design feeling cohesive, and I have always admired Tutti Rouge’s use of final flourishes like embellished straps, bows on the cups, and heart-shaped adjusters in the back.  The bra was gorgeous back when it first released and carries for the tradition now.

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Final Thoughts:  For small bands/large cups, I recommend proceeding with caution here, but I think people with shallower or wider tissue, especially in smaller cups or larger bands, may find something to like here.

Erica

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Product Review Redux: Tutti Rouge Liliana
Erica
Erica is a lover all things lingerie and is passionate about helping people find the bra which fits and flatters. Side passions include reading, writing, hiking, dairy-free food, walking her Jack Russell terrorists, and dying her hair everything from black to red.
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15 thoughts on “Product Review Redux: Tutti Rouge Liliana

  • July 7, 2015 at 4:33 pm
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    You look fantastic in this bra!

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    • Erica
      July 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm
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      Thanks, Paul! I just wish the design wasn’t as wide/shallow in design for higher cups. I feel like that is going to be a problem for some people. 🙁

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  • July 7, 2015 at 6:19 pm
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    Is there any solution to a underwire that digs into one’s underarm? I am stuck with a bra that fits in every way apart from this, so would love a fix.

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    • Erica
      July 8, 2015 at 12:12 pm
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      Hi Lynn! I’ve read articles about bending the wires outward near the underarm area, and I believe Wide Curves has posted about pulling out the wires from the bra, cutting them lower, and then sewing them back into the bra. I haven’t tried any of this myself since I tend to just pass on those bras, but I am lucky enough to have some options. If you have difficulty finding a bra which even halfway fits, it could be worth investigating either of these alternatives.

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  • July 8, 2015 at 6:53 am
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    Hi Erica,
    what you’re describing is exactly what I’ve experienced when I’ve tried Liliana and other padded Bras from Tutti Rouge in 32GG. The wires are too wide, the cups too shallow and the straps too far away. Older Curvy Kate shapes came to my mind as well 😉

    But I didn’t give up as I like the designs of Tutti Rouge so much and finally had a pretty good fit with Nichole. It’s not perfect, I had to bend the centre gore as it was pocking terribly in the beginning, the wires aren’t meant for high set breasts like mine so there is space between my breasts and the wires. But the cups are deep and suit my full on top breast shape very well.

    I hope that Tutti Rouge will adjust the fit for smaller band and GG+ cup sizes in the future as I would love to have more of their Bras in my collection!

    Greetings from Berlin,
    Anja

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    • Erica
      July 8, 2015 at 12:16 pm
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      Hi Anja! I have a review coming up next week of Nichole actually. 😀 I had *the same* issue with wires on the center. Sweet Nothings said the same thing, so I am starting to wonder if this is a flaw with the design rather than an issue with the one I received. It was bad, real bad. I have a picture of what it did to me in 15 minutes of wear that’s going with that post. But, the shape and lift was significantly better, and I think if they fixed the tacking problem, it would be a nice bra to carry in the shop.

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      • July 13, 2015 at 3:28 pm
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        Hi Erica,
        I’m pretty sure it’s not an issue with the bra you received but with Nichole in GG+ sizes in general. Last year I’ve bought Nichole in 32G and the centre gore was totally fine. Only the band was huge (as Alicia describes), running about 2 sizes bigger.

        So, I’ve tried 30GG just to find out that the band runs way shorter in GG+ sizes (probably because of the 3 instead of 2 hooks) so that 30GG was too tight.

        So I’ve kept 32G and wanted to shorten the band but before I could do so I’ve gained weight and the cups were too small. So I tried 32GG in two different colours (one from SS14 and one from AW14) and both had terrible pocking gores. I still decided to keep one of the bras and bended the gore so long until it was better.

        I really hope Tutti Rouge will fix the gore and sizing issues because I like their designs and lovely little details and as I said before would love to have more of their sets in my collection (and you could carry Nichole in your store)!

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        • Erica
          July 18, 2015 at 11:16 am
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          Hi Anja! I wasn’t expecting the gore problem because the reviews I read did not mention it initially, but when I think about it, they were all wearing under a G cup. I wonder what about the underwire shape and bra designs is creating this problem in GG+ cups only. For the video I shot with the review, I had the bra on maybe 15 minutes, and it left a very red mark and bruised my sternum the rest of the day. Thanks goodness I wore my Comexim bra to work, so it didn’t hit that area. After my (failed) experimentation with the Panache tankini, I just wasn’t going to mess with the wires. It’s such a shame because the bra is really cute, and I love what they are doing for fall, especially because they are finally offering a beige. With my customers, plain beige and black are essential!

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  • July 8, 2015 at 11:23 am
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    It sounds like there is a huge difference at opposite ends of the band range. My shape is full on top, fairly projected, slightly closer-set than average, and medium width. Freya is my best wire fit, but i hate their shape, & the way GG styles become matronly. (Panache wires too wide, Cleo too narrow) Tall, armpit stabber wires are my ultimate dealbreaker.

    I have 3 Lilianas: 1 older, new newer. All in 36GG. They are definitely shallow, & the older is wide; the newer are not. They are narrower than my Freyas, & cups are true to size. I find the wire height about oerfect – much lower than Cleo. And while they *should* be incompatible with my shape, I really find them comfy, flattering, & incredibly useful under flowy tops, or a bodice that isnt designed to accomodate fuller busts. Basically, the same experience Bras I Hate had with this bra.

    I also have the Sophia, which is a fuller cut. It ran snugger in the band on me, but still comfy. Its a fuller cup than i prefer but materials are lovely, & the cotton lining really takes the designs up a notch.

    The Betty is one of the most gorgeous I’ve seen. Much snugger band, i went up to a 38G. Wires again quite Freya-like. But the shape is very cakes on plate, so it gives a squarish shelf effect in profile under a normal Tshirt.

    The Nichole is the only Tutti that has been a complete fail for me. I had hig hopes for their mesh style, but the wires are tall & narrow. The shape is great, due to the Cleo-like cut: upfront, rounded. But the cup fit & the discomfort, was very like my Cleo Ellis. Even after bending the wires, it tacked so firmly it was painful. And unlike any other Tutti, the band ran huge. I mean, huge. And i do not enjoy tight bands at all. But my 36GG stretched to 40″.

    Overall, i really like Tutti Rouge. Especially the fact that they have so many different shapes, one is bound to be compatible. And oddly, i was able to wear 3 of the 4 very different cuts, which is uniquely amazing! However, their drawbacks are also large: inconsistency & outrageous shipping. I bought each bra on deep discount, which balanced it out. But still, i hesitate to try newer cuts. But eventually i get desperate with the lack of FOT friendly options, & order again. ~=o]

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    • Erica
      July 8, 2015 at 12:20 pm
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      Alicia, thanks for providing some added feedback on fit! It’s interesting because I thought my original 30HH was still comfortable (with the extender), but jumping to the 32HH created that issue with the arm region. The profile definitely has its benefits too (particularly for ladies having issues with button-fronts), but the high side was killer for me. Did you find the 36GGs ran true to size? I’m wondering if I didn’t get a weird one-off because that 32 band was definitely more of a TIGHT 30.

      I mentioned this to Anja in the comments too, but I have a Nichole review slated for next week. I had the same tacking problem with mine. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE PAIN! I had this once before on a Panache Swimsuit, and even bending wires would not help. So, I was way too scared to try it again. I hope Tutti Rouge gets some of these fit/consistency issues fixed because I love their design aesthetic and think they really have a great eye for finishing touches and thoughtful flourishes!

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      • July 8, 2015 at 9:38 pm
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        The newer Lilianas ran very true for me: bands were firmer than the original design, and cups were not taller, but accomodated more center & upper fullness. Both versions tack nicely, but the newer are a better fit, with no cutting on top. The way they accomplish the minimized shape is interesting too: no flattening or push-out to the sides, no floating gore; just a very different seam placement.

        I will say that with Tutti i find it really makes a difference to not size up in cup. Kind of like your Marcie adventures: going down a cup, & not too tight in band, is always best for me.this is one brand where use of extenders doesnt work for me. The fit is thrown off somehow, in a way unique to the brand.

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        • Erica
          July 9, 2015 at 11:39 am
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          Interesting thoughts on extenders/cup size! Sadly, I haven’t tried this bra yet where I didn’t need an extender despite sizing up in the band, so perhaps this does create an issue. I guess I received on that was cut tighter for the size. 🙁 For cups, my 30HH (32H sister size) didn’t allow a full scoop, so I don’t know. I am thinking this just may not be a style work pursuing further for me. But I have always wanted to revisit Betty and try one of their plunges!

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  • July 12, 2015 at 10:24 am
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    Hi Erica,

    I tried Liliana in cornflower and ivory and totally confirm with your impressions. Wire are wide and cups relatively shallow. Therefore Liliana bra works perfectly with me. I love the design of this bra and its construction with thin padded lower cup and unpadded fabric upper cup. The band could be more firm, so I reflect to take an 36 band with an F or FF cup for my next order. But in summary I love this bra.

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    • Erica
      July 18, 2015 at 11:14 am
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      Braberliner, you are exactly the customer I was thinking of for this bra as well as Corey who posts here. I think it’s great for people needing that wider/shallower design, and I would totally consider this as a 36+ band size option in the shop. It does sound like bra I received as not supposed to be this tight as you along with a few others have commented the band ran true-to-size or generous. I’m not going to revisit this bra again, but I do wonder how the fit would have changed if the band was correct.

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